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- Date: Thu, 26 May 94 09:09:33 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #578
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 26 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 578
-
- Today's Topics:
- 6146A vs 6146 (2 msgs)
- Bizarre QST Statement (6 msgs)
- Converting an old HT-220 to 2M
- DX, dx and calculus
- Field Day!
- Help: FT-5200 LED Replacement
- Looking for questions of FCC exam
- PRB-1: How Strong?
- RFI Tracked Down!!
- Site to look up frequiencies
- SSB Filters
- TenTec Omni VI anyone?
-
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-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 May 1994 13:00:16 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!ham@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 6146A vs 6146
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2s130r$vb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
- william r finch <wrfin@prairienet.org> wrote:
- >
- >
- >Hi, Dave, I looked this up in the handbook, the 6146A is shown with plate
- >voltage of 750V, power out of 70W. The 6146 is shown as 500V, power out
- >of 48W. The 6146B is shown as plate 750V, power out of 85W. This is due
- >to the higher plate current, 160mA instead of 120-135 for the other two.
- >I have an "old" HW101, with 6146's in it, and wads thinking of putting
- >A's in it, and playing with the plate voltage, but, who's got time!
- >Anyway, I think that's the significant differences, if there are any 6146
- >experts out there, we will be sure to hear from them!.
- >
- For all interested, there's also something called the 6146W, which I was
- led to believe was a ruggedized, mil-spec version of the 6146B. VERY
- expensive if you can find them.
-
- And I have also heard some stuff about HOW to buy tubes. Apparently
- 6146's are still being made by Penta, a Chinese brand that I've been
- warned to stay away from. So I have my spare pair of RCA's, still new in
- the boxes, manufactured in September, 1960, and hoping they're still good
- for whenever I may need them...
-
-
-
- --
- 73, _________ _________ The
- \ / Long Original
- Scott Rosenfeld Amateur Radio NF3I Burtonsville, MD | Live $5.00
- WAC-CW/SSB WAS DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 May 1994 08:53:05 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 6146A vs 6146
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi,
-
- If I may add my two cents worth, I have seen a copy of the internal tech notes
- for the HW-101. It stated that in the 1978 - 1979 time period, some
- tubes (6146A) were not manufactured to Heath's quality specifications.
- Therefore the sticker was added to the radio kits to warn the users.
-
- A couple of years later the sticker was removed after quality picked up.
- I am sorry I don't remember the manufacturer's name of the 6146A.
- At that time quality assurance determined that the 6146A could be used
- and removed the sticker from the bill of materials for the HW-101.
-
- BTW, I have also heard about the 6146W tubes. My understanding is that
- you can get approx. 140 watts out of them, while the 6146, 6146A is
- about 100 watts. All this paragraph is hearsay though.
-
- And oh, to paraphrase one fellow on a local repeater, 'Here's my good advice,
- and it didn't cost anything, so it must be good for nothing.'.
-
- Jeff Johnson, KF8UW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 May 94 12:02:23 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Bizarre QST Statement
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- WRT my earlier post, my rig is an FT-101ZD with two 6146's though I forget if
- they're A's B's etc. I beleive there's an FT-102 and FT-901 that have 6146
- finals, though I was surprised to learn the 101E and other earlier ones didn't.
-
- My first rig was a homebrew one tube "full gallon" 75 watt novice cw rig built
- from a schematic in the handbook in 1960, the final was, you guessed it, a 6146.
- --
-
-
- Stephen P. Baker phone: (508) 856-2625
- Lecturer in Biostatistics (508) 856-3131 fax
- Department of Academic Computing (413) 253-3923 home
- University of Massachusetts Medical School e-mail: sbaker@umassmed.ummed.edu
- 55 Lake Avenue North -.- -.. .---- .--. ..-.
- Worcester, MA 01655
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 May 94 11:39:39 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Bizarre QST Statement
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Greg said: edu
- : Subject: Bizarre QST statement
- : To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
- :
- : In June QST, there is an article on buying your first HF rig.
- :
- : Hooray!
- :
- : However, the author makes a really bizarre statement:
- :
- : In talking about hybrid rigs, he instructs the neophyte to stay
- : away from those which have sweep tubes in the final, and go only
- : for those with 'real' transmitting tubes (6146, presumably).
- :
- : Pretty much narrows it down to 'Kenwood.'
- :
- : It lets out Drake 4-line, which he mentioned as an example, FT-101s,
- : etc.
-
- ??????????
- MY ft-101 has 6146's. Doesn't yours?
-
-
-
- --
-
-
- Stephen P. Baker phone: (508) 856-2625
- Lecturer in Biostatistics (508) 856-3131 fax
- Department of Academic Computing (413) 253-3923 home
- University of Massachusetts Medical School e-mail: sbaker@umassmed.ummed.edu
- 55 Lake Avenue North -.- -.. .---- .--. ..-.
- Worcester, MA 01655
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 13:13:46 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Bizarre QST statement
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2s0pqo$dc2$1@rosebud.ncd.com> stevew@sheridan.ncd.com (Steve Wilson) writes:
- >
- >Just for the record, I'm pretty sure that the FT101 uses 6146s.
-
- Just for the record, there are as many 6146s in FT101s as there are in
- RCA televisions.
-
- Greg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:48:17
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!ugle.unit.no!pcg21.kjemi.unit.no!espen@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Bizarre QST Statement
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <9405261139.AA19763@umassmed.UMMED.EDU> sbaker@umassmed.UMMED.EDU (Stephen Baker) writes:
-
-
- [snip,snip... 6146 is the only real X-mit tubes not used in Drake, FT-101...
-
- >??????????
- >MY ft-101 has 6146's. Doesn't yours?
-
- Nope! *My* FT101E has two 6JS6C's......(expensive).
- I like that old rig! Not too sensitive (read: deaf) on 10m, but otherwise OK.
- Could have used a notch filter and WARC-bands though.
- The reciever is really sensitive with a nice, narrow preselect filter.
-
-
-
- Espen
-
- LA6MGA/LA1K, DoD# 7962
- Disclaimer???? What disclaimer?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 11:54:32 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!gatekeeper.es.dupont.com!esds01.es.dupont.com!GRIB%esvx17.es.dupont.com@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Bizarre QST statement
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <gregCqDF5I.J7y@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
- >In June QST, there is an article on buying your first HF rig.
- >
- >Hooray!
- >
- >However, the author makes a really bizarre statement:
- >
- >In talking about hybrid rigs, he instructs the neophyte to stay
- >away from those which have sweep tubes in the final, and go only
- >for those with 'real' transmitting tubes (6146, presumably).
- >
- >Pretty much narrows it down to 'Kenwood.'
- >
- etc.
-
- >Greg
-
- Greg,
-
- I think the reasoning behind steering a "novice away from sweep tubes" isn't
- due to their availability, but the "forgiveness" of the 6146. I agree that a
- lot of good gear is available with sweep tubes (I'm still using my TR-4C and
- C-line), and they work well. I think though, that for the beginner especially
- who may be tuning the rig up for the first few times by him/her self, the 6146
- is a bit more forgiving of errors and a "too long key down time". You have to
- really try and kill a '6146' whereas some sweep tubes especially when they're
- older and weaker, don't take much to push them over the edge. I also feel that
- this type of advice is due to the rising price of ham gear (both new and used),
- since beginners won't be looking towards new gear as much as older, more
- affordable gear (like the TS-520S, FT-101E, and TR-4C class of rigs), very
- usable even today, but still either hybrid or all tube designs.
-
- 73,
-
- Joe KI3B
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:52:33 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!scubed!nuntius@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Bizarre QST statement
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Subject: Bizarre QST statement
- From: Greg Bullough, greg@netcom.com
- In article <gregCqDF5I.J7y@netcom.com> Greg Bullough, greg@netcom.com writes:
- >In June QST, there is an article on buying your first HF rig.
- >
- >Hooray!
- >
- >However, the author makes a really bizarre statement:
- >
- >In talking about hybrid rigs, he instructs the neophyte to stay
- >away from those which have sweep tubes in the final, and go only
- >for those with 'real' transmitting tubes (6146, presumably).
- >
- >Pretty much narrows it down to 'Kenwood.'
- >
- >It lets out Drake 4-line, which he mentioned as an example, FT-101s,
- >etc.
- >
- >One wonders how such a bizarre and subjective criteria got by the
- >editorial staff. Would we really tell a Novice not to buy a good
- >used TR4C or FT-101!?!
- >
- >Yeah, I like 6146s better, but sweep tubes are both effective and
- >available.
- >
- >Greg
-
- As the owner of an FT-101E I would recommend that novices get a Kenwood TS 520
- or 820 or 830 instead.
-
- The 6JS6c sweep tubes used for finals in the 101E are difficult to neutralize.
- The rig was designed for the NEC 6JS6c, which went out of production circa
- 1980. Other 6JS6Cs do not have as large a plate structure. This causes two
- problems, plate dissipation is less and the neutralization capacitor is too
- small. Nothing can be done about the first, other than replacing finals every
- year instead of every 3 to 4 years, but one can add a mica capacitor across
- the neutralization variable to fix the second. I found out this after I burned
- out a choke in the driver stage due to parasitic oscillations from my attempts
- to neutralize the last set of tubes I installed. This prompted my purchase of
- a new rig! (long overdue) There appears to be no "standard" for the 6JS6C as
- the ones I have purchased over the years have quite different internal
- construction. (yes I saved the old tubes-a fact I can't explain to my wife or
- to myself. The newer ones I have purchased have plates about half the size of
- the NECs that came with the rig. I have two GE tubes (purchased at different
- times) that have very different sized plates! I believe that the 6146 does not
- have this variation from tube to tube. I think that the TR-4 and TR-3 use
- different sweep tubes than the 6JS6C, so I don't know if they have this
- quality control problem.
-
- As an unrelated issue, the receiver in the FT 101E is more prone to intermod
- than the Kenwoods as well, and in my opinion the receiver is the most
- important part of a rig, and should receive more consideration than the types
- of tubes in the finals. This alone should drive one to the Drake or Kenwood.
-
- James R. Duffey KK6MC/5
- S-Cubed Division of Maxwell Laboratories
- 2501 Yale Street SE Suite 300
- Albuquerque, NM 87106
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 May 1994 13:21:04 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!space.mit.edu!crispy@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Converting an old HT-220 to 2M
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- By the way, I have 5 Motolora HT-220 for sale. I would like $35/ea or 150/all.
-
-
- For more info, e-mail to crispy@space.mit.edu.
-
-
- thanks,
-
- -------------------------------------
- Christopher S. Pak
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology
- Center for Space Research
- 37-487
- 77 Massachusetts Ave.
- Cambridge, MA 02139
- Phone: (617)253-9342
- Fax: (617) 253-0861
- E-mail: crispy@space.mit.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 May 94 14:43:38 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: DX, dx and calculus
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > "a quantum leap in technology", which to me means the smallest
- > possible change, but which has somehow come to mean "an enormous
- > change" to some people.
- >Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
-
- however, a quantum leap is where a particle changes energy states without any
- interveneing states..an electron at E0 goes to E1 w/o gradually going throught
- E0.1, E0.2 etc.
-
- Usually used in advertising to suggest that the new thing isn't an incremental
- improvement over the old thing but a Brand New Device (but made with 100%
- recycled atomic subparticles..)
-
- And there's that TV show of the same name where a quantum leap had something
- to do with time travel or getting drunk in a bar near a coal mine - i don't
- know which.
-
- bill wb9ivr
- rockwell avionics/collins
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 08:02:21 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!rohvm1!rohvm1.mah48d@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Field Day!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994May24.142838.28167@cobra.uni.edu>,
- parickj4560@cobra.uni.edu wrote:
-
- > I have a Yaesu FT301AD and I was thinking about running my own FD site.
-
- > I have thought of running my rig with the car bateries, just plop the
- > radio in the right seat. (But remaining in the same spot at all times).
- >
- > Would the car approach work or would the 15 amp radio suck my battery
- > dry in no time?
-
- Even if you only run a 5-watt rig from your car battery, make sure you've
- got somebody around with another car and a set of jumpers if you plan to
- work all 24 hours of field day! Cheaper than a generator, and lots safer
- than using the car battery is to get a marine deep-discharge battery just
- for portable operation. You can figure, based on the current drain of your
- rig on transmit and receive, how much power you'll need for the contest--I
- use a 25% key-down time estimate for the calculation: (time * receive
- current * 0.75) + (time * transmit current * 0.25).
-
- --
- John Taylor (W3ZID) | "The opinions expressed are those of the
- rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com | writer and not of Rohm and Haas Company."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 94 09:09:19 CDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Help: FT-5200 LED Replacement
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi,
-
- I have a YAESU FT-5200 that has one of the LED's used for back-
- lighting burned out. I don't want to send it in to have a simple
- LED replaced, has anyone opened up the face plate of a FT-5200?
- Any suggestions or comments?
-
- Thanks
- --
-
- ________________________________________________________
- Glenn Pearston (515) 294-0032 v
- 24 Horticulture Hall (515) 294-0730 f
- Ames, IA 50011
- pearston@iastate.edu
- --
-
- ________________________________________________________
- Glenn Pearston (515) 294-0032 v
- 24 Horticulture Hall (515) 294-0730 f
- Ames, IA 50011
- pearston@iastate.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 11:30:33 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!netmbx.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!zib-berlin.de!uni-paderborn.de!urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de!tornado.oche.de!rnihd.rni.sub.org@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Looking for questions of FCC exam
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Some of my fellow members in our local HAM club want to get an
- American HAM license. Now, we have no database with the FCC questions
- - only a big pack of paper. And that's quite difficult to learn from.
- If you know a ftp server or could help me in any other way, please
- drop me a mail !
- mni tks in advance !
-
- --
- O / ____ _ Torsten Leibold (DH5FBT)
- -+-= | __\_\_o____/_| Konrad-Adenauer-Allee 105
- / \ <[___\_\_-----< 68519 Viernheim, Germany
- | o' ...!subnet.sub.net!rnihd!rnivh!torsten
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:54:12 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!rogjd@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: PRB-1: How Strong?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I read the article regarding PRB-1, which was featured in this month's
- CQ magazine, in a state of deep shock. The essential theme of the
- article clearly seemed to be that PRB-1 has been mangled by the courts
- such that cities/municipalities can reasonably expect to prevail against
- amateurs most of the time. This is extremely different than the message
- which was contained in a QST article on the same subject which was
- published (I believe) within the past 18 months.
-
- Any knowledgeable lawyers out there (or concerned hams, or both?) care to
- comment?
-
- My city of Glendale, CA has extremely restrictive antenna regulations: no
- antenna can be visible, can't be over 25 feet tall, etc. I have always
- assumed that if they wanted to get it on in the courts that I could defend
- my right to have my R-5 vertical chimney mounted. (After all, the r-5 is
- almost 20 feet tall itself; how am I going to keep it from being higher
- than 25 feet? :-)
-
- Reading the CQ article would cause most readers, I think, to conclude
- that one's liklihood of prevailing in court is poor.
-
-
- --
- rogjd@netcom.com
- Glendale, CA
- AB6WR
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 May 1994 11:05:21 GMT
- From: news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!andy@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: RFI Tracked Down!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am passing this info along just in case you may be suffering from a
- similar problem...
-
- Yesterday I uncovered a major source of RFI in my house. This RFI affected
- reception of both the 2-meter and 220 MHz bands. It drove my scanner
- crazy. It created minor diagonal lines on channels 4 and 5 of our
- television sets, both through the cable system and through rabbit-ear
- antennas. And, I believe it affected the operation of my Boca high speed
- modem which is especially susceptible to RF, and located one story
- directly above the source. I suspect it also affected my Mr. Coffee
- machine, but I can't prove it. ;-)
-
- Last evening I got pretty much fed up with the RFI and made a concerted
- effort to track it down. The source turned out to be a most unlikely
- device...our electric hot water heater. Not actually the heater itself,
- but an energy saving device installed by our local electric utility
- company (RF, Incorporated) about a year ago. It's a lunchbox-size grey
- box in series with the ac wire going to the heater. It has several
- colorful LEDs on the front panel, happily blinking to the tune of
- "HA-HA-I'M-REALLY-SCREWING-UP-THIS-GUY'S-HAM-RADIO-HOBBY."
-
- The device apparently is *supposed to* emit RF, as it communicates via
- the electrical wires to the utility's local office, giving the utility
- company the ability to remotely regulate the AC power going into the hot
- water heater. With it, our bill is reduced by approximately $100 a year.
-
- While the utility company acknowledged the energy-saver emits RF, they did
- not know on what frequency. I told them it radiates on just about all the
- frequencies in the spectrum, and that they should stop by today and get
- the *&^$#% thing out of the house! It's worth giving up a $100/year
- electric bill reduction to not be bombarded by so much RF.
-
- 73... andy_k4adl@rf.free.by.the.time.i.get.home.from.work.tonight
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 15:03:14 GMT
- From: wang!dbushong@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Site to look up frequiencies
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- bruceg7809@aol.com (BruceG7809) writes:
-
- >In article <1994May20.053507.12168@ccc.amdahl.com>,
- >dws30@p1dbg02.amdahl.com (David Sharpe) writes:
-
- >I am also interested in the ftp or site to look up frequencies for
- >scanners
- >Please inform me of newgroup or ftp...
- >Thanks
-
- Try
- rec.radio.scanner
-
- which is quite active. Also, I'll send you a pretty good list via email.
-
- Dave, KZ1O
-
- --
- Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:06:13 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!csn!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplb!hpwin055.uksr!hpqmoea!dstock@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: SSB Filters
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I know of one world-class crystal filter manufacturer based in
- France, C.E.P.E. part of Thomson-CSF. I've got one in front of me
- now, but no address.
-
- The highest reptation filters in amateur circles are German
- KVG Kristall Verarbeitung Neckarbischofsheim GMBH
- Postfach 61 D-6924 Neckarbischofsheim
- Telefon 07263/648-0
-
-
-
- John Birkett
- 25 The Strait
- Lincoln
- LN2 1 JF
- England
-
- Tel +44 522 520767
-
- Often has surplus crystal filters in stock. I've bought a number of
- marine quality 1.4 MHz IF usb, lsb, cw filters from him
-
-
- The best advice is to first find your filters, then use IF to suit.
-
- Recently a lot of 1.4 MHz IF filters of superb performance have
- flooded onto the British market at very low surplus prices (I paid the
- equivalent of 40 francs each, although the prices fluctuate) Filters
- for AM RTTY and various CW bandwidths are also to be found as well as
- proper separate USB and LSB ones. I think of good government surplus
- components as a sort of tax refund!
-
- Bon Chance!
-
- David
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:54:59
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!pipex!uknet!EU.net!sunic!ugle.unit.no!pcg21.kjemi.unit.no!espen@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: TenTec Omni VI anyone?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- How is the Omni VI really? In some time we'll have to buy a new rig at LA1K
- to replace the old IC751A. The Omni VI looks like a good rig out from the
- ads/specs/etc..
-
- Does anybody here actually operate one of these? How is it like?
-
-
- Espen
-
- LA6MGA/LA1K, DoD# 7962
- Disclaimer???? What disclaimer?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #578
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